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Big_Iron · Jul 22, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

From the official Wiki......

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Hop into Hero Battles to earn double Balthazar faction and double commander title points. The double rewards will be offered from Noon Pacific (-7 GMT) on Friday and last through Sunday at 11:59 PM Pacific (-7 GMT)

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 22, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

I don't get why people constantly dismiss HB because it has an AI element.

It's still in the end, 2 human players commanding a team of AI against each other. Equal odds, both players being tested, their performance is still all in their control.

Sure I don't play HBs but I can still see why it's a choice of PvP.

Dr.Jones · Jul 22, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

I don't get why people constantly dismiss HB because it has an AI element.

It's still in the end, 2 human players commanding a team of AI against each other. Equal odds, both players being tested, their performance is still all in their control.

Sure I don't play HBs but I can still see why it's a choice of PvP.

normally i would agree with this remark but hb has be come a exploit fest.

also yawn....

lord of all tyria · Jul 22, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Actually, its because its broken and never gets any updates focused at it.

Neo Nugget · Jul 22, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

This is probably the 8th time this year that it's been double hero battle weekend. Not my thang.

Going on vacation for 2 weeks anyway :P

Skye Marin · Jul 22, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

I don't get why people constantly dismiss HB because it has an AI element.

It's still in the end, 2 human players commanding a team of AI against each other. Equal odds, both players being tested, their performance is still all in their control.

Sure I don't play HBs but I can still see why it's a choice of PvP.

Flaws in the games design mean that in higher-level play, few if any kills happen, and it becomes a matter of who can shadowstep the most instead of running from shrine to shrine. Also, the more you win, the faster you realize this because all your opponents cap shrines and don't stop. There's no real penalty for having a team of four Mo/A, heal balling and Return/Recall/Shadow Meld everywhere. Snares are ineffective for the same reason. Who cares if you're crippled, if you're half a stage away from anything that could hurt you.

The AI has gotten better, but capping shrines need less clout.

zelgadissan · Jul 22, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Crap, I'm forced on family vacation and miss Wintersday in July, and then I come back for this. I feel violated.

As a PvE mainly player, I'll at least jump over for some PvP on most of the double weekends. Never for HB, though.

Dallcingi · Jul 22, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Sync with friend and take turns bipping heroes then resign? yeahh free balthy and command pts ftw huh

slowerpoke · Jul 22, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

every time i see HB mentioned i think there should have been a TA ladder/AT instead

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 22, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

normally i would agree with this remark but hb has be come a exploit fest.

also yawn....

Wouldn't know much about exploit fests cus as I said, I never played it :P

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Flaws in the games design mean that in higher-level play, few if any kills happen, and it becomes a matter of who can shadowstep the most instead of running from shrine to shrine. Also, the more you win, the faster you realize this because all your opponents cap shrines and don't stop. There's no real penalty for having a team of four Mo/A, heal balling and Return/Recall/Shadow Meld everywhere. Snares are ineffective for the same reason. Who cares if you're crippled, if you're half a stage away from anything that could hurt you.

The AI has gotten better, but capping shrines need less clout.

Make the first version of the Grenth Avatar available in HB? :P JK

Yeah the shadow stepping annoyance I can see the effect of in HB. Mostly the abuse of it by /A's. Unless Anet changes the rules on shadowstepping for non-primaries I don't see it changing, it's just a stupidly powerful ability for monks to get their paws on.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 22, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

yeah!
another weekend that I can do what ever I want---so maybe some of my elonians will make it to the realm of torment-----
(but we KNEW it was going to be a pvp weekend since lasts was pve---)

StormDragonZ · Jul 22, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by English Warrior

/roll 100 anyone?

I just let people win because I don't care about the Commander title. So I plan to help those who plan to do some HB.

I'll think about running the Quad War. My Warrior and three Warrior heroes. I'm sure a lot of people will get a riot out of it...

Murmel · Jul 22, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

HB weekend >.>

/cry

Dr.Jones · Jul 22, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

yeah!
another weekend that I can do what ever I want---so maybe some of my elonians will make it to the realm of torment-----
(but we KNEW it was going to be a pvp weekend since lasts was pve---)

I didnt realize that the SNOW BALL ARENA was pve

Snow Bunny · Jul 22, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

I didnt realize that the SNOW BALL ARENA was pve

I was unaware that a weekend where 90% of the GW playerbase massacred raptors for alcohol and fruitcakes was a pvp weekend.

Oh, right

Draikin · Jul 22, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

The people still playing HB don't want double rewards, they want updates to the broken mechanics and AI bugfixes...

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

Snares are ineffective for the same reason. Who cares if you're crippled, if you're half a stage away from anything that could hurt you.

Snares are very effective in HB, if shadowstepping and instagib sins were to be nerfed then defensive cripshot rangers and Icy Shackles ele's would completely dominate the metagame. You just need to get to shrines faster than your opponent, it doesn't matter if you use snares or shadowsteps (or both) to achieve that.

The Arching Healer · Jul 22, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Finally the weekend I was waiting for like 2 months. Need some luck to reach Battle Commander

Martin Firestorm · Jul 22, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

Flaws in the games design mean that in higher-level play, few if any kills happen, and it becomes a matter of who can shadowstep the most instead of running from shrine to shrine. Also, the more you win, the faster you realize this because all your opponents cap shrines and don't stop.

Or dump the friggin shrines altogether. Pre-HB I always hoped anet would come up with a basic 1 on 1 death match arena. I still think that would be lots more fun, even with 3 heroes like now, just no shrines and points for kills only.

Sergeant of Marines · Jul 22, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Woot, time to get Rank 3 Commander this weekend...

It is gonna be fun to see

Player A: Roll?
Me: No Thanks, but Good Luck
Player A Leaves
Flawless Vitctory!
GG

FoxBat · Jul 22, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

You'd think PvP and PvE players could for once unite around a weekend neither of them care about.